UP/JB Hunt question

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kskcsfan

kskcsfan
What happened to UP hauling JB Hunt containers in stack form? They were doing it for a while in late 2010/early 2011, did they quit hauling them or have I just not seen them do it lately? It's been a while since I've seen any of the trains notable for them to be hauled on.
 
R

(RXR)

Guest
I'm curious about the same thing.

I saw some JB Hunt on UP earlier last year, but not too many now. I do regularly see JB on the ZLADV / ISCLB though. They'll throw some on the Sunset Route Z's every once in a while too.

Other than that, I don't see much.
 

NM_RailNut

Member
I think BNSF managed to get most of J.B. Hunt's business; their containers and trailers (mostly containers on chassis) make up at least a third or more of the TOFC and domestic containers rolling through Belen.
 

andrewjonathon

New Member
JB Hunt's own website states that their intermodal network is anchored by BNSF in the west and Norfolk Southern in the east. That would indicate to me that any JB Hunt traffic you see on UP is only traffic that just doesn't make sense on BNSF routing.

http://www.jbhunt.com/solutions/intermodal/

In a related topic I read that intermodal revenue now accounts for over 80 percent of JB Hunts total revenue. Pretty impressive.
 

kskcsfan

kskcsfan
Seems like UP and Pacer's relatinship is equal to that of BNSF and JB Hunt and vice versa BNSF to Pace, UP to JB.
 

andrewjonathon

New Member
The article linked below does not address the original question as to JB Hunt containers on UP, but it is still worth reading if you are interested in intermodal on rail.

Particularly interesting is the sidebar story about the "The Container Store" (based in Texas) distribution system involving JB Hunt and BNSF. (Look about 2/3 of the way thru the main story)

http://www.dcvelocity.com/articles/20110704rails_new_route_for_intermodal_growth/
Interesting to read. However, I have a healthy skepticism for claims by railroads they ready to conquer the short haul trucking market. It seems I have been reading about various plans for how they intend to conquer the short haul market for a long time now. I hope they are eventually successful but I won't hold my breath.
 
R

(RXR)

Guest
Seems like UP and Pacer's relatinship is equal to that of BNSF and JB Hunt and vice versa BNSF to Pace, UP to JB.
Very true.

UP hauls massive amounts of Pacer Stack Train down here on the Sunset Route.
 

CNW4404

What kind of cucumbers?
Hub Group anyone? Pacer is more of a footnote now after their bankruptcy, and with most of their fleet going into the UMAX program.
 

kskcsfan

kskcsfan
Well this might as well be called "lets talk about whatever UP hauls for intermodal containers". Way off topic but I like it. Didn't know Pacer was being taken over by UMAX
 

Beverlyhelper

beverlyhelper
Short Haul Market

Interesting to read. However, I have a healthy skepticism for claims by railroads they ready to conquer the short haul trucking market. It seems I have been reading about various plans for how they intend to conquer the short haul market for a long time now. I hope they are eventually successful but I won't hold my breath.
Echo that. Isn't the profitable margin for short-haul markets something like 500 miles or less goes to trucks, 500 miles or more could go to trains with more efficient scheduling. Railroads tried the Chicago-Twin Cities market (around 400 miles) and couldn't compete IIRC. Chicago-Kansas City was touch and go.
 

JeffLH

Member
Regularly see JB Hunt on the Overland Route. Maybe not an entire train or even the majority on a train, but usually a few on the Z trains.

More noticably absent around here is the Schneider business. One Z used to be mostly orange, not anymore. I don't always pay the best attention to what's on a train, but I can't say I've seen a Schneider box or trailer (of any color) for quite a while.

Jeff
 




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