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Got a heads-up from "OT Local" this afternoon that BNSF 8127 was southbound on the OT Sub. into Bend, OR, possibly as a light engine move.

I was able to get trackside as the unit approached town, and OT Local reported it hit the Redmond, OR, detector at 6 axles.

Sure enough, it rolled into town solo, and the 3-man crew tied it down in storage track, even coupling it to a "long abandoned" flat car that has been sitting in town for about 10 years.

Yesterday a solo C41-8W, and today a solo SD60M. Looking forward to tomorrow!


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Interesting! Are there locals running out of Bend (North or South) and do they generate much traffic or is the OT pretty much a through line? Thanks in advance for any info.



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Interesting! Are there locals running out of Bend (North or South) and do they generate much traffic or is the OT pretty much a through line? Thanks in advance for any info.


The OT Local (not to be confused with RRF member "OT Local") works 5 (?) days a week, usually with a pair of GP's.

Local traffic obviously is heavy enough to justify a local.

Known industries:


Plastic bottle recycler that loads shredded plastic into covered hoppers, usually three 3-bay covered hoppers on site at a time.

Two propane distributors.

Fuel/oil distributor that usually has a tank car or two of diesel or heating oil? Not sure what it is, but it is NOT propane.

Cement distributor, usually 5-8 2-bay covered hoppers on site at a time.


Several propane distributors.

Not sure what else is going on in Redmond, all the mills are shut down or do not use rail?

Prineville Jct:

City of Prineville RR interchange. Box cars of tires going to Les Schwab in Prineville, outbound woodchips. Not sure what else.

Madras (as far north as local goes):

Alblina Asphalt gets lots of tank cars (of asphalt?), usually 10-28 on site at a time.
Warm Spring Forest Products loads lumber there (mill is about 10 miles away without rail access). A couple of other industries there, not sure what they are.

Just this evening the local was heading north about 6:00pm with two GP38-2's and three 3-bay covered hoppers. Not sure what they were carrying (or empty) or where they were going.

Most of the trains are handling through traffic. Don't ask how many trains come through, as the "experts" that don't live here will tell you we only see four trains a day. We regularly count six (not including the local), sometimes more, occasionally less.

I live within earshot of the tracks (and you can't NOT hear a southbound climbing out of town). My shop is a block away and has a clear view of the tracks, I'm there much of the time, otherwise I'm on the road and within site of the tracks much of the time.

Warren Root spends much of his day at a friends house building 1.5" scale trains, the shop is about 80' from the mainline. And he lives close enough to the tracks to hear every train go by.

"OT Local" is retired and monitors the scanner when at home.

But the "experts" tell us we can only see four trains a day.


M.P.-18 Scenic Sub.
For those intrested i have also posted a photo of it going thru M.P.-18 Edmonds Wa. with its crane and one flat car on gallery side under BN/Santa Fe.


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Rob - thanks for the info. To be honest that is more activity on the OT than I have read about before and I am pleased to hear it (for me someone right on the spot is always the expert!). Always grateful for any info on the OT or Gateway sub. Details of businesses much appreciated too. I looked up the City of Prineville RR and there is a lot of interesting history there as well.

Another question if you don't mind - is the crew that runs the local Bend based? I had always heard of it referred to as an away from home terminal but is that just the case for Wishram/KF crews or is the local worked by an away from home crew?

Thanks again,



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I don't have any connections with local employees to ask, but would assume the OT Local crew lives here. I'm pretty certain that the road crews are Wishram and Klamath Falls based. Too bad for them, Bend is a much nice place to live!

I'd love to ask the dude that works in the depot, but the one time I thought I'd be proper and ask if I could step into the breezeway and take a shot of a 10 SD40-2 light engine move sitting in front of the depot, he didn't answer the question, only reminded me that I was on private property, to leave immediately, and never even come into the parking lot again! So that's how friendly our local agent is! is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to - An online railroad bookstore featuring a curated selection of new and used railroad books. Railroad pictorials, railroad history, steam locomotives, passenger trains, modern railroading. Hundreds of titles available, most at discount prices! We also have a video and children's book section. - An online model railroad bookstore featuring a curated selection of new and used books. Layout design, track plans, scenery and structure building, wiring, DCC, Tinplate, Toy Trains, Price Guides and more.

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